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Offline straightuplads

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Can male-wifes use the title "Mrs"?
« on: 30 Mar 13, 11:26:am »
And also another question: Can male-wifes use their husbands' surname?

I was watching  ep 19 of "the New Normal" yesterday evening and the question pop-up in my mind.

Any ideas?

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Re: Can male-wifes use the title "Mrs"?
« Reply #1 on: 31 Mar 13, 01:02:am »
No. A man married to another man is a husband. There is no "wife".

A woman married to another woman will introduce her as "my wife", as Ellen de Generes does with Portia de Rossi.

A husband is a male spouse (marriage partner). A wife is a female spouse (marriage partner). The person's own gender determines the right label, not the identity of their spouse.

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Re: Can male-wifes use the title "Mrs"?
« Reply #2 on: 03 Apr 13, 04:57:pm »
"A husband is a male spouse (marriage partner). A wife is a female spouse (marriage partner). The person's own gender determines the right label, not the identity of their spouse." Is this endorsed by New Zealand Law?

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Re: Can male-wifes use the title "Mrs"?
« Reply #3 on: 03 Apr 13, 09:20:pm »
The Marriage Act does not define husband or wife but their meaning is implied and is echoed in official documents issued by the Births Deaths and Marriages agency:
http://www.dia.govt.nz/diawebsite.nsf/wpg_URL/Services-Births-Deaths-and-Marriages-Marriages-Frequently-Asked-Questions?OpenDocument

The definition of a husband as a male spouse is accepted in any English speaking country and can be checked in any dictionary. For more information read up on Wikipaedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Husband

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In a marriage between two men, both spouses may be considered husbands.


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Re: Can male-wifes use the title "Mrs"?
« Reply #4 on: 07 Apr 13, 10:10:pm »
And back to the other part of the question - married couples in New Zealand can use either spouse's family name or a combination of both according to the Government agency for Births, Deaths and Marriages.

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Does my name have to change when I get married?
In New Zealand it has been customary for a woman to assume the man's surname after marriage. In some cases couples are combining their names to create a new family name, or some husbands are assuming their wife's surname on marriage. You may retain your current surname. None of these changes affect your registered birth name.

http://www.dia.govt.nz/diawebsite.nsf/wpg_URL/Services-Births-Deaths-and-Marriages-Marriages-Frequently-Asked-Questions?OpenDocument#seventeen

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CAN PARTNERS CHANGE THEIR
NAMES ONCE THEIR MARRIAGE
IS SOLEMNISED?
• You can retain your current surname;
• A man may take the woman’s surname;
• A woman may take the man’s surname;
• Both may adopt a combination of their
surnames (eg as a hyphenated surname).
Many organisations will accept your Copy of
Particulars of Marriage or Marriage Certificate
as evidence of the fact that you have adopted
the new surname.
You will be given or sent a ‘Notification to
Registrar of Electors of Intended Marriage/Civil
Union’ form, for updating your details on the
electoral roll.

http://www.dia.govt.nz/Pubforms.nsf/URL/GettingMarriedBrochureblackandwhite.pdf/$file/GettingMarriedBrochureblackandwhite.pdf