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Title: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 21 September 2009, 09:48:PM
As of this second, I shall lose weight.  I will have a flat stomach by Christmas.

Who is with me!?


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: nzdar on 21 September 2009, 09:50:PM
Rhys?


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: 355 on 21 September 2009, 09:53:PM
if your big goal for Xmas is having a flat stomach, it may be time for you to get some perspective and realize there are more important things in life than fitting into skinny jeans...


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 21 September 2009, 09:58:PM
So wanting to look good, feel good, be healthier, have more energy and have more self confidence are things I should just ignore as well?

It is A goal for Christmas, but hey, thanks for pissing on it.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: deep388 on 21 September 2009, 09:59:PM
Try the AB King, it is GOD. (helped me lose the "tubbiness" I had throughout my high school years) and of course running for 30-40 mins 3-4x a week. Do it for two months, I guarantee you will see some results by December!!


 All the best!  ;)


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: jjw on 21 September 2009, 10:00:PM
Your stomach looks fine but those are some meaty thighs (going by your portrait at least)

J


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 21 September 2009, 09:57:PM
Heh yeah I think the running might have been a tad more important in shifting the weight than the sit ups :)


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: deep388 on 21 September 2009, 10:02:PM
Heh yeah I think the running might have been a tad more important in shifting the weight than the sit ups :)

Unfortunately, I too have meaty thighs... :( But I'm putting it down to genes and being "big boned" so to speak... :-[


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: nzdar on 21 September 2009, 10:03:PM
food intake and exercise need to be reviewed, but if you choose one food intake has been proved by numerous studies to be more important to focus on


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Fradley on 21 September 2009, 10:05:PM
Trying to loose weight. It's a battle no one ever wins


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 21 September 2009, 10:08:PM
Fradley - Except for all the people that succesfully lose weight.

Nzdar - I plan on doing both.  No use hoping for a quick, easy fix.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Fradley on 21 September 2009, 10:12:PM
Fradley - Except for all the people that succesfully lose weight.

Really. Have they stopped fighting the battle against putting on weight once they've reached their goal? or is it a never ending war that goes on no matter your weight?


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: WonderBoy on 21 September 2009, 10:11:PM
Persistance pays off.

I have huge respect to those who start the weightloss mission and keep on it!!! You *can* do it.. so dont try, just do. All cardio helps. Balance of that and Diet (and not starvational diet, just eat healthy, smaller meals more often, kick that metabolosim back into gear)

So good on ya Prospero.. *hi 5*

Really. Have they stopped fighting the battle against putting on weight once they've reached their goal? or is it a never ending war that goes on no matter your weight?

if you want to lose it, and keep it off, you keep at it and it becomes part of your life. Nothing is easy, and losing weight is FAR from easy.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 21 September 2009, 10:12:PM
Doing as I do now, I am hovering around the same weight and have been for a couple of years.  So lose weight, introduce new habits, but ultimately when at a goal weight you don't have to be quite so strict and keep the same sort of body.  

Thanks xXx, its all about quality of food and portion size eh?


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: deep388 on 21 September 2009, 10:18:PM
Really. Have they stopped fighting the battle against putting on weight once they've reached their goal? or is it a never ending war that goes on no matter your weight?

Its easy I think. Since losing a whopping 18 kgs 3 years back (yes I was quite tubby back in the day!) I am still on track today and try to be AS healthy and maintain an active lifestyle as much as possible so that I do not go back to being that person I was before. I usually eat as healthy as I can during the week, trying to incorporate lots of veggies and fruits and save good old junk food and other "naughty naughty/comfort foods" for the weekends and it has not failed me YET.  


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Fradley on 21 September 2009, 10:15:PM
It's unfair how some people have to try so hard to loose weight. And others have to try so hard to put on weight.

It's unfair that people have this idea that they have to be in a certain shape to look good.


I'm not dampening your goal Prospero. I think good for you for taking up this challenge. It's just this issue is somewhat of a bitch.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Rhysior on 21 September 2009, 10:19:PM
yeah, soem guy I was talking to was wanting to put on weight im like your crazy
with me its not so much losing weight its more putting on muscle.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: WonderBoy on 21 September 2009, 10:22:PM
Doing as I do now, I am hovering around the same weight and have been for a couple of years.  So lose weight, introduce new habits, but ultimately when at a goal weight you don't have to be quite so strict and keep the same sort of body. 

Thanks xXx, its all about quality of food and portion size eh?

After being on my Weight Gain Mission for 6 years now, and reading countless upon countless of books, talking to SO many people, i have come to know a bit about the losing weight side as well, and have had many friends get good results..

Biggest thing is Quality Food, and Determination! Keep at it, NEVER have a 'day off' or a 'ive been so good, i'll have a lazy day'

Its like pulling in a tug of war, if you stop - you lose the battle. So keep at it!!

It's unfair how some people have to try so hard to loose weight. And others have to try so hard to put on weight.
It's unfair that people have this idea that they have to be in a certain shape to look good.
I'm not dampening your goal Prospero. I think good for you for taking up this challenge. It's just this issue is somewhat of a bitch.

Putting on weight is the hardest thing ive ever had to do.. and its still a goal i battle with, Eating so much damn food i feel like im gonna bust myself open... But its what i want. So i stick with it.

My dad, at 50 - lost 27 KGs from simply walking the dog for an hour each day, and being more active around the house, walking instead of driving to the train station, walking to the dairy etc. simple stuff.. :)


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 21 September 2009, 10:19:PM
It is not just about looking good, but FEELING good.  Looking good is of course a big part of it, and pervades every culture in every era.  Currently I don't even feature in my own fantasies.

And yea for some people it is harder to put on weight or lose weight, it is harder for some people to understand math or learn a new language, some people aren't good at golf and some can't halo 3 co-op without dying every 2 god damn minutes.

But...so, if you want to do something, you can just try a little bit harder.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: WonderBoy on 21 September 2009, 10:21:PM
and some can't halo 3 co-op without dying every 2 god damn minutes.

 :(

DONT HATE ME. lolz


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 21 September 2009, 10:26:PM
yeah, soem guy I was talking to was wanting to put on weight im like your crazy
with me its not so much losing weight its more putting on muscle.

I'm looking for both, I am going to be alternating cardio and weight training - so all going to plan will lose body fat as well as cm


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: WonderBoy on 21 September 2009, 10:32:PM
I'm looking for both, I am going to be alternating cardio and weight training - so all going to plan will lose body fat as well as cm

good combo, as even when lifting weights, you do lose some fat! YAY! Im all excited for ya Prospero! Gym stuff gets me all excited lol I like seeing people get into a new Goal!!!

reminds me, gym at 6am.. jeebus.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Rhysior on 21 September 2009, 10:33:PM
cept I don't like gyms....or gime has homer simpson says it lol


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 21 September 2009, 10:37:PM
You don't have to go to the gym, there are body weight workouts you can do at home, and even without much exercies a good change in diet will make all the difference


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: WonderBoy on 21 September 2009, 10:37:PM
cept I don't like gyms....or gime has homer simpson says it lol

Then lots of Cardio! RUnning / walking, about an hour a day at least.
No more take-aways
No more chocolate
No more Sodapop
No more crisps.

If you want to lose weight, its a 100% commitment.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Gertrude Stain on 21 September 2009, 10:38:PM

Putting on weight is the hardest thing ive ever had to do.. and its still a goal i battle with, Eating so much damn food i feel like im gonna bust myself open... But its what i want. So i stick with it.



Tell me about it! I started going to the gym and going all protein crazy trying to bulk up, trying to avoid any fat burning cardio, and ended up dropping way below my already significantly underweight size. So I stopped going and kept stuffing myself.

But my bf sometimes battles to keep his weight down and he works hard at it when it really gets to him ( I like him any size though  :-*). We eat pretty much the same stuff, but I usually eat more.

I'm heading back to the gym now that it's all summery though and I'm going to be very careful and keep an eye on my weight.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: WonderBoy on 21 September 2009, 10:37:PM
Tell me about it! I started going to the gym and going all protein crazy trying to bulk up, trying to avoid any fat burning cardio, and ended up dropping way below my already significantly underweight size. So I stopped going and kept stuffing myself.

But my bf sometimes battles to keep his weight down and he works hard at it when it really gets to him ( I like him any size though  :-*). We eat pretty much the same stuff, but I usually eat more.

I'm heading back to the gym now that it's all summery though and I'm going to be very careful and keep an eye on my weight.

oh pet - its hard, i know - i eat 5 MAIN meals a day now.. its normal to lose weight when starting tho - cos you'll lose some fat.
My trick is no cardio - i already burn carbs at an alarmingly high rate.. Anymore cardio and i'll look like Lindsay Lohan on a coke-binge week. Having a trainer helps too (the right trainer!)


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 21 September 2009, 10:40:PM
Goals are really important, I just wrote mine down and I took a HORRID photo.

I shall display my before and after pic Dec 22

It is my now goal.  I will be an After Pic.

I WILL BE AN AFTER PICUTRE!


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: deep388 on 21 September 2009, 10:41:PM
You don't have to go to the gym, there are body weight workouts you can do at home, and even without much exercies a good change in diet will make all the difference


I agree with this, search up the internet...there are LOADS of excercises you could do to bulk up minus the machines and all that fancy stuff you get at gyms. And yeah, losing the weight is going to be 100% commitment Rhys (make it 150%), GIVE UP the chocolate, ditch it all...leave it for the weekends, that way you can use it as a reward for yourself because you know you worked HARD during the week.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Doowie on 21 September 2009, 10:45:PM
I went on the sureslim diet last year. And yes, i know, these fads have a bad rep. BUT i ended up losing 30kgs in about 5 or 6 months. There was no exercise regime, just healthy eating. You go for a weigh-in once a week. I'd recommend doing something similar, weighing yourself once a week, not everyday, because one tends to fluctuate daily, but over a week is more accurate. Keep a food diary as well, it can highlight foods/meals that you forgot you ate and you can see where you're going wrong when it comes to eating unhealthy food. Also grab a tape measure and measure around your bust, stomach and thighs. After a month, measure again. All these little things are incentives. They worked for me  :D good luck!


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: WonderBoy on 21 September 2009, 10:46:PM
...leave it for the weekends, that way you can use it as a reward for yourself because you know you worked HARD during the week.

Umm No, not even weekends - commitment is commitment.

Cheating is cheating.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 21 September 2009, 10:47:PM
I'm not a fan of sureslim, but for some people the inherent cost and tailored diet works for them, and hell, if it works, whats the problem.

xXx - actually there is a lot of research to show that an "off" day a week is good to keep people motivated, it gives them something to look forward to in the beginning, and as they go on, and the results start to show, the reward becomes reaching your goal more than the weekly treats along the way.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: WonderBoy on 21 September 2009, 10:50:PM
I'm not a fan of sureslim, but for some people the inherent cost and tailored diet works for them, and hell, if it works, whats the problem.

xXx - actually there is a lot of research to show that an "off" day a week is good to keep people motivated, it gives them something to look forward to in the beginning, and as they go on, and the results start to show, the reward becomes reaching your goal more than the weekly treats along the way.

possibly thats the military-brat coming out in me. lol Im an 'all or nothing' kinda dude...


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: etapeanutbutter on 21 September 2009, 10:50:PM
sigh...
/me looks at his body


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Fradley on 21 September 2009, 10:52:PM
Umm No, not even weekends - commitment is commitment.

Cheating is cheating.

LoL. So easy for you to say Mr. Eats lots in trying to gain weight.  :)

 :-*


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 21 September 2009, 10:50:PM
possibly thats the military-brat coming out in me. lol Im an 'all or nothing' kinda dude...


It all comes down to individuals, some people can take the extreme discipline, but for tothers who are used to more lethargic lifestyles, knowing that at least once a week they can have whaht they want and not feel awful about it, can make the rest of the week bearable.  I know for some people it can take about 6 weeks to see any "real" changes and in those 6 weeks there are a lot of temptations to hold you back.

Once you make it though and you realise, shit, this is going to work, the realisation that you can reach your goal and look awesome is much better than having a pack of chips.

heh

This is really helping, I am totally psyching myself up :)


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: nzdar on 21 September 2009, 10:50:PM
Umm No, not even weekends - commitment is commitment.

Cheating is cheating.


I thinking giving yourself treats is likely to make you stick to your plan a whole lot easier.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: deep388 on 21 September 2009, 10:55:PM
actually there is a lot of research to show that an "off" day a week is good to keep people motivated, it gives them something to look forward to in the beginning, and as they go on, and the results start to show, the reward becomes reaching your goal more than the weekly treats along the way.

That is exactly what I did, and following it I managed to stay on the bandwagon to losing the weight off and i think it works (perhaps it may not for some people?). I sure as hell could not have survived pushing myself if I knew that at the end of the week I would get no REWARD for putting myself through extensive pain to lose the flab.  :(


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: WonderBoy on 21 September 2009, 10:57:PM
I can logically see how treats can help...

As long as a treat - like 2 or 3 peices of chocolate, a small bag of crisps, maybe a can of coke.. doesnt turn into a 2L tub of icecream, or a kingsize bar of chocolate, or a big bag of crisps...

Thats only from seeing it happen to a friend.. and it killed her motivation.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Rhysior on 21 September 2009, 10:55:PM
then some guys are just luckey,
they get to eat what they like and still be the size they want


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 21 September 2009, 10:56:PM
Yeah, a TINY portion of the population.

Everyone else, well they just work at it.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Gertrude Stain on 21 September 2009, 11:01:PM
I can logically see how treats can help...

 a can of coke.. ...a 2L tub of icecream, or a kingsize bar of chocolate... a big bag of crisps...



Hhehehe that sounds like my friend's diet, except that's all she eats - but she only drinks diet soft drinks  :D


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 21 September 2009, 11:01:PM
I can logically see how treats can help...

As long as a treat - like 2 or 3 peices of chocolate, a small bag of crisps, maybe a can of coke.. doesnt turn into a 2L tub of icecream, or a kingsize bar of chocolate, or a big bag of crisps...

Thats only from seeing it happen to a friend.. and it killed her motivation.

Theres actually only so much damage you can do in one day, for some people, when they start out they basically have one binge day a week, where they eat whatever they want, maccas for breakfast, chips as a snack, burger for lunch, lollies and a big curry for dessert...and then full on again for 6 days, and then same again...but by the fourth week they might only have the burger and curry and less snacks, and by week 8, its just a curry, and a tomato based one at that.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: WonderBoy on 21 September 2009, 11:06:PM
Theres actually only so much damage you can do in one day, for some people, when they start out they basically have one binge day a week, where they eat whatever they want, maccas for breakfast, chips as a snack, burger for lunch, lollies and a big curry for dessert...and then full on again for 6 days, and then same again...but by the fourth week they might only have the burger and curry and less snacks, and by week 8, its just a curry, and a tomato based one at that.

Calories dont stop at 10000.....???

But i've been at this a long while.. Ive seen how much discipline it can take....

Biggest thing - Huge props and respect to anyone who wishes to better themselves, in any way, be it physically, mentally, spiritually...


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 21 September 2009, 11:04:PM
Yeah but your body can only process so much in one day, it might be 7 steps forward one step back...but that is still 6 steps as opposed to none.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: WonderBoy on 21 September 2009, 11:13:PM
Yeah but your body can only process so much in one day, it might be 7 steps forward one step back...but that is still 6 steps as opposed to none.

i get ya now. sorry - im being caught up in the Trans-war in the other thread.

As i said - Kudos to anyone starting out on this track. It helps to write down the goals.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 21 September 2009, 11:11:PM
for now, my only war on trans is transfat!

Rargh!


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Fradley on 21 September 2009, 11:12:PM
then some guys are just luckey,
they get to eat what they like and still be the size they want

Well sometimes those people would like to put on weight. But it's not exactly easy for them to do that. It's a reversed problem.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: WonderBoy on 21 September 2009, 11:24:PM
Well sometimes those people would like to put on weight. But it's not exactly easy for them to do that. It's a reversed problem.

exactly..

If i was happy - i wouldnt be tryin 2 gain some weight.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Fradley on 21 September 2009, 11:27:PM
exactly..

If i was happy - i wouldnt be tryin 2 gain some weight.

I'm sure you're fine the way you are though wonderboy. But there's no harm in aiming for a goal. Just gotta know when to stop.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: phaag on 21 September 2009, 11:31:PM
exactly..

If i was happy - i wouldnt be tryin 2 gain some weight.
you want some of mine
i've got like 35kg going spare


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Gertrude Stain on 21 September 2009, 11:51:PM
I'll take 8!


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Eromenos on 21 September 2009, 11:57:PM
Rhys?

God i know i shouldnt but i did chuckle


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: phaag on 21 September 2009, 11:58:PM
I'll take 8!
i'll just have to find someone to remove it  >:D ;)


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: siegfriedhans on 22 September 2009, 12:29:AM
Body weight is the bloody bain of my existance.....
I spent the first 20 years of my adult life trying to lose weight or keep it down....which did work...sortof..I went from a max of nearly 114 kilos down to a fairly consistent 85-90 kilos. Now im down to 76 and still dropping...and Im not doing it intentionally. Its actually a little bit of a problem...and I never thought Id say that...:)
Because of my former weight issues Ive weaned myself of things I loved when I was a teen....sugars etc...not a really big fan of junk food anymore either....so bingeing doesnt really work for me...
We always seem to want what we don't have....untill we have it...


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Gertrude Stain on 22 September 2009, 01:59:AM
i'll just have to find someone to remove it  >:D ;)


(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n106/jcpobrien/8kilo.jpg)


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Lumiere on 22 September 2009, 02:02:AM
([url]http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n106/jcpobrien/8kilo.jpg[/url])


Nooo... take mine.  If you take 8kg, I'd be my ideal weight.  Damn 8kg of lard - booo!


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: saintjulz on 22 September 2009, 06:59:AM
OMG!!

I looove a gay fitness fitness emergencie!!!

I can see it up in bedazzled lights now......

The gaynz forum booty camp!!!!!

Alright who's in.

I will be the self styles richard simmons/ jane Fonda/ jillian micheals evil bitch woman who makes you cry but at the same time helps you discover your inner strength and self worth, all while wearing the kewlest little outfits!!!!



Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: tones on 22 September 2009, 07:14:AM
I curse my smoking cessation ... then again I drink alcohol a bit more often now (I used to drink next to nothing)...

I'm in for this booty camp with Auntie Julz!

My aim is to lose 15kg ... my motivation is get me a marriage.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: StraightEdge on 22 September 2009, 08:11:AM
Wine wine wine wine!!!

Maybe if you would STFU about how hard it is to loss weights and gain weights and just get on the bloody routine and just do it then you'll be there regardless.

Sure you might have the short-end of the stick but sitting on your ass doing jack shit about it really isn't going to help.

It isn't meant to be easy, a lot of people think of weights loss/gain as a short-term goal but fitness is a LIFESTYLE. The first few months are hard but once you get it down it become second nature just like everything else.

That being said, go hard pro, all the best.

YAY GAY BOOTCAMP!!!!!!! I want PINK army boots!!!!


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: question_chick on 22 September 2009, 08:22:AM
OMG!!

I looove a gay fitness fitness emergencie!!!

I can see it up in bedazzled lights now......

The gaynz forum booty camp!!!!!

Alright who's in.

I will be the self styles richard simmons/ jane Fonda/ jillian micheals evil bitch woman who makes you cry but at the same time helps you discover your inner strength and self worth, all while wearing the kewlest little outfits!!!!



I'm in  :P


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: crashe on 22 September 2009, 09:07:AM
Boys.......... can I tell you all right now that this gal has beaten you all off the mark....

Cos 50 days ago something happened to me and I came up with this statement:
I on a mission... and I am achieving it...

I have LOST 9KGs in just on 7 weeks..... with many more to go.  ^-^

I walk 5 to 6 days a week, either 1 hour on a neighbour's treadmill or I pound the streets, for 50 to 60 minutes depending upon the route I take. Or instead I get on the exercycle if it is raining.

Treadmill: is now set to 5.0 speed for 1 hour... (which is fast enough for me on my short legs) and I started off on the flat but now work in inclines to work off between 500 to 640 calories per session.
Walking: is around my local streets and it has lots of hills.
Exercycle: I get on that old rickety machine for 20 minutes a couple of times a week.
Ab King Pro: borrowed that for a months trial. Do 3 minutes a day, sometimes twice a day.

I NO longer eat my favourite Bacon and Egg pies or doughnuts on the side... or drink COKE when I am out.

The urge to eat that crap food is gone from my brain... it disappeared overnight. I just woke up and decided to eat healthy and drink WATER... now I hate and loathe water but I am drinking it.

I now eat lettuce, carrots, cucumber, tomato, beetroot and a egg with a slice of either roastbeef, cornedbeef or chicken on a sandwich or as a meal. Fruit is Pears and apples. No more bananas as they are high in calories.  I eat wafers or crackers with cottage cheese.
(This was the food that I would never eat in the past.... lol)

Average daily intake:
Breakfast: 2 weetbix with a slight amount of sugar sprinkled on top.
Morning tea: Fruit or raw carrot
Exercise: Walk, treadmill or exercycle.
Lunch: Meat and salad sandwich on two pieces of white high fibre bread.
Afternoon tea: Fruit or carrot
Tea: Meat and salad.
Supper: Wafer or cracker with cottage cheese.
Fluid intake: Having a 650 bottle of water or more.

Calorie intake: between 1200 to 1500 per day.

I do allow myself one treat a week... but it isn't pies or coke or a doughnut.
In fact now when I have the treat, I am thinking gee how many minutes do I have to work that lot off... lol. I walk to my local supermarket 30 minutes away with a backpack and carry home stuff...
I walk up to my local dairy to get a TV Guide or milk... 1.5kms away and then take the long way home.

6 weeks ago I struggled to walk up to my letterbox and back without puffing and wheezing... I was the total couch potato and did NO exercise... I wasn't interested.

But overnight that changed... how and why is the mystery... but I am doing it.... and will continue to do it... I am feeling damn good now.... and starting to fit clothes again that had sat in my closet for years...  Do it because YOU want to do it... not cos of what others say.. find the link to do it.


So boys it is achievable.... IF I can do it.... then so can you. 8)  ^-^




Rhys: if you really want to lose the weight.... then find a goal to achieve... find that incentive to help you achieve that goal. Cos you can do it.... I know you can... cos I believe in you.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: WonderBoy on 22 September 2009, 09:13:AM
Congrats Crashe!!!

Thats really awesome!!! Ka pai!!!


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: saintjulz on 22 September 2009, 02:09:PM
First off Crashe- you rock! you will be one of our motivational experts coming in to speak with the victims!!

Lets do this thaaang!

We'll start on October the 1st

I'll put up a page on my website so I don't clog up the forums with your "challenging but achievable fitness routine vids and handy exercise pics"

I'll need suitably schmultzy background stories......


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: WonderBoy on 22 September 2009, 02:10:PM
First off Crashe- you rock! you will be one of our motivational experts coming in to speak with the victims!!

Lets do this thaaang!

We'll start on October the 1st

I'll put up a page on my website so I don't clog up the forums with your "challenging but achievable fitness routine vids and handy exercise pics"

I'll need suitably schmultzy background stories......

Whats the URL for ur site J?


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 22 September 2009, 02:11:PM
I started mine today, so I will have a headstart :)


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: saintjulz on 22 September 2009, 02:17:PM
www.julzdarroch.co.nz


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: saintjulz on 22 September 2009, 02:20:PM
we need a cool name for it ........


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 22 September 2009, 02:18:PM
And rewards, we should be able to choose any forum member to sleep with :)


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: WonderBoy on 22 September 2009, 02:22:PM
ROFL!


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: StraightEdge on 22 September 2009, 02:22:PM
And rewards, we should be able to choose any forum memberS to sleep with :)


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: clasp on 22 September 2009, 02:27:PM
http://www.csiro.au/science/TWD.html

The CSIRO total well being diet is sciencetastic.  Plus it comes with shopping lists.  Yay for no thinking.

Because it's based on eating healthily it is easy to maintain, and adjust to your gain/loss needs.

I think it is genius, and have a friend who did great weight controlling with it.  I recommend.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 22 September 2009, 02:27:PM
Passing off eating fruit and veges as a science = easy money spinner


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: saintjulz on 22 September 2009, 02:32:PM
And rewards, we should be able to choose any forum member to sleep with :)

Of course...........

And I need a spesh facebook page so all contestants can post their "casual yet totally hot' completely unposed workout shots ..


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: saintjulz on 22 September 2009, 02:35:PM
If we get to shag other contestants I vote that it gets opened up to non forum members... a bit of variety ya know....


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: phaag on 22 September 2009, 02:35:PM
hmmm... you all sound like you have small amounts of weight to loose... i need to loose at least 45kg
i only have to breathe and I've put on 5kg...
oh well... at least i have a good doctor who is working with me to figure out how to loose it.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: clasp on 22 September 2009, 02:36:PM
Passing off eating fruit and veges as a science = easy money spinner

yeah, it is a no brainer, really.  But as i said, that's the appeal for me.

It does have some important sciency things to say about the optimal level of calory shortfall one should aim for, and how to calculate it, although i doubt that is information that only CSIRO knows.

I just like how it breaks the diet down into food type units, so you don't have to bother with counting protein / carb / fat / calories all the time..  urg..

but yeah, for me the whole book and shopping lists have just boiled down to- "cook lots of green veges and fill up on those".


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: saintjulz on 22 September 2009, 02:42:PM


but yeah, for me the whole book and shopping lists have just boiled down to- "cook lots of green veges and fill up on those".


And no peeps, technically beer is not a vegie, even though it is plant based and comes in a green bottle


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: clasp on 22 September 2009, 02:47:PM
at least i have a good doctor

Linda is quite cool, if a little mad, eh.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: phaag on 22 September 2009, 02:45:PM
Linda is quite cool, if a little mad, eh.
Love her
she has been a great help getting over all the problems I've had in the past few years


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: deep388 on 22 September 2009, 02:55:PM
And no peeps, technically beer is not a vegie, even though it is plant based and comes in a green bottle

LOL thats like how some people would count french fries as a serving of vegetable... :D


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: nzdar on 22 September 2009, 03:30:PM
Passing off eating fruit and veges as a science = easy money spinner

it is also very high in protein (lots of meat!)

I have found it works and if I could jsut to stcik with I woudnt do the Oprah weight yoyo thing


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: question_chick on 22 September 2009, 03:35:PM
I'm up for whatever punishment you can dish out julez, just let me know what you need in terms of details and when and where I get my instructions from


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 22 September 2009, 05:05:PM
it is also very high in protein (lots of meat!)

I have found it works and if I could jsut to stcik with I woudnt do the Oprah weight yoyo thing

I have no dobut it works, but its not exactly ground breaking.

At least its not those terrible Liver Cleansing diets or the great load of bullshittery that is Detoxes


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: clasp on 22 September 2009, 05:13:PM
You don't want ground breaking Prosp- you want doable and sustainable.

anyway, it's an option, and one based in nutrition, rather than marketing.  Also you can buy it cheaply 2nd hand via trademe.

Have you decided on a nutritional strategy as yet?


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: question_chick on 22 September 2009, 05:18:PM
hmmm... you all sound like you have small amounts of weight to loose... i need to loose at least 45kg
i only have to breathe and I've put on 5kg...
oh well... at least i have a good doctor who is working with me to figure out how to loose it.

It's not just you phaag, I have 20 - 25kgs to lose ideally.

Am happy to do that in blocks of 5 to 10 though, it seems a bit more managable


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 22 September 2009, 05:19:PM
You don't want ground breaking Prosp- you want doable and sustainable.

anyway, it's an option, and one based in nutrition, rather than marketing.  Also you can buy it cheaply 2nd hand via trademe.

Have you decided on a nutritional strategy as yet?

Sorry I don't mean to besmirch the idea, i mean its sound practice by all accounts, and as long as it doesn't mention "toxins" its fine.

Me?  I'm not going to count calories, I'm just going to eat smaller, smart and more often.  Going with the portion size rule, protein size of your fist and carbs size of your cupped hand, and lots of green veges

Oh and yeah that low fat icecream, thats good for you because it says low fat right? :P


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Lumiere on 22 September 2009, 05:34:PM
Sorry I don't mean to besmirch the idea, i mean its sound practice by all accounts, and as long as it doesn't mention "toxins" its fine.

Me?  I'm not going to count calories, I'm just going to eat smaller, smart and more often.  Going with the portion size rule, protein size of your fist and carbs size of your cupped hand, and lots of green veges

Oh and yeah that low fat icecream, thats good for you because it says low fat right? :P

Protein the size of your palm and about the thickness of your hand... carbs the size of your fist.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 22 September 2009, 05:35:PM
Sorry got that confused, yup protein palm.  Cupped hand/fist for carbs.  And two cupped hands full of m&m's


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: nzdar on 22 September 2009, 05:53:PM
I have no dobut it works, but its not exactly ground breaking.

At least its not those terrible Liver Cleansing diets or the great load of bullshittery that is Detoxes

um, why do you need grounbreaking if it works?



Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 22 September 2009, 06:04:PM
You don't, the point I am making is that its passing off something people have known for decades, as a "radical new SCIENTIFIC diet plan!"


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 22 September 2009, 08:24:PM
Day 1 - A Stumbling Start

Day began with best of intentions, I normally walk to work but I jogged some of the way, ate fruit and a protein shake for breakfast, went for a 10 minute quick walk at lunchtime, chicken pita for lunch, and nuts and bananas as snacks during the day....then shit i started to work late, and was getting stressed, and on automatic I went to the snack box and grabbed chips and chocolate and swallowed it before i realised what I was doing.

Normally, I would give up, say, dammit I tried again, failed, im going home to eat.  But then the thought of Wonderboy slamming my head into my desk, screaming "discipline you little bitch" and Julez shaking her head in disappointment before kicking me in the nads made me go, no, fuckit, I'm going to the gym.

Got changed, went to the gym, did an excellent cardio workout and going to have a salad for dinner shortly.

So I learnt I have to have my water bottle full at all times, as looking back I wasn't even that hungry, a gulp of water would have done it, and to make sure I allow for working late nutrition.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Columbine, Comtesse De Vache on 22 September 2009, 08:32:PM
do nothing, big boys are hot. GET FATTER. :)


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: swit012 on 22 September 2009, 08:58:PM
Hi, Prospero, I'm with you.

Ever since I saw this lecture I've dramatically cut down on sugars in my life:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
May or may not have an impact on my waistline, but I am sure it's having an impact on my wellbeing  :D


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 22 September 2009, 08:56:PM
Dude its an hour and a half long and it is peak internet usage!...what's the gist?


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: swit012 on 22 September 2009, 09:04:PM
Dude its an hour and a half long and it is peak internet usage!...what's the gist?
Refined cane sugar contains fructose, just like "high fructose corn syrup" and is processed by your body almost like a poison.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 22 September 2009, 09:23:PM
Gasp

Not High Fructose Corn Syrup!?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEbRxTOyGf0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqIpAyHJ2ws



Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Happy pookie on 22 September 2009, 09:31:PM
For those who still wonder if they should go or not:

(http://friends.kz/uploads/posts/2009-09/1253607751_gym_29.jpg)

(http://friends.kz/uploads/posts/2009-09/1253607661_gym_06.jpg)

(http://friends.kz/uploads/posts/2009-09/1253607703_gym_03.jpg)

(http://friends.kz/uploads/posts/2009-09/1253607737_gym_45.jpg)

(http://friends.kz/uploads/posts/2009-09/1253607713_gym_35.jpg)


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Jenny on 22 September 2009, 09:54:PM
I could do with losing 30 - 35kg.  Even if I lost that I wouldn't be slim.  Depressing.

As well as diet and exercise there are other changes I should make - like closing down the computer earlier and getting more sleep.  Sleep is when the body heals and processes food.  Not enough sleep means less food processing time.

Knowing this doesn't seem to make much difference though.   :(


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: swit012 on 22 September 2009, 09:55:PM
Hahaha, I was watching that second clip with a few other people in the room talking in the background. During a lull in the conversation the video pipes up: "female genital mutilation, get the facts...".

Anyway, Prospero, if it's a choice between some actors being paid to say a few random words for 2 minutes or a researcher going through half an hour of detailed, peer reviewed scientific analysis, I choose the science. I highly recommend watching that lecture I posted, it's really good :D


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: swit012 on 22 September 2009, 10:01:PM
I could do with losing 30 - 35kg.  Even if I lost that I wouldn't be slim.  Depressing.
Wait, what? There's nothing wrong with your weight D=


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Jenny on 22 September 2009, 10:23:PM
I read this article about mental changes needed to change bad habits.  The experts suggest using visual aids - a photo of what you want and a mental picture of the worst that will happen if the wrong choices are made.

http://www.listener.co.nz/issue/3615/features/13845/the_paths_best_taken.html (http://www.listener.co.nz/issue/3615/features/13845/the_paths_best_taken.html)


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: jordienz on 22 September 2009, 10:29:PM
I balloned up to 97kg - caused by being straight, married, long working hours at a desk, regular cooked evening meals, and giving up smoking. That was 6 years ago.
now ive been steady around the 70-74kg mark - caused by being gay, single, relaxed active work style, eating nothing that takes longer than 10 minutes to prepare or cook in the microwave. Oh, and starting smoking again.
My doc says ive got the body of a 30y/o..................but i should really give up smoking  >:D


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: nzdar on 22 September 2009, 10:30:PM
Warning: the expert quoted in the article claims to be training the All Blacks - if that is so, he has failed - his claim should be treated with caution


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 22 September 2009, 10:34:PM
I could do with losing 30 - 35kg.  Even if I lost that I wouldn't be slim.  Depressing.

As well as diet and exercise there are other changes I should make - like closing down the computer earlier and getting more sleep.  Sleep is when the body heals and processes food.  Not enough sleep means less food processing time.

Knowing this doesn't seem to make much difference though.   :(

So maybe not slim, but a heck of a lot healthier and happier I bet too

Why not join us!?  Well, me at this stage anyway :)

Be The AFTER photo! :)


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: nzdar on 22 September 2009, 10:32:PM
My doc says ive got the body of a 30y/o..................but i should really give up smoking  >:D

to look at you may have - very hard to tell from the pic - but if your smoking your insides wont be like a 30 yo for long that's for sure


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: jordienz on 22 September 2009, 10:46:PM
to look at you may have - very hard to tell from the pic - but if your smoking your insides wont be like a 30 yo for long that's for sure

Prob true, but last check up I passed with flying colours health wise. How many people do you know that have lived a totally so-called healthy lifestyle yet seem to get every illness out there. I know of more people that have had the dreaded cancer who have never touched a smoke. I firmly believe people are pre-liable  due to genes etc


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 22 September 2009, 10:51:PM
Anecdotal evidence doesn't mean jack in cancer rates sorry.  For every "my 80 year old grandad smoked till the day he died" story, there are a shit load more "my grandad died of lung cancer aged 56"



Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: nzdar on 22 September 2009, 10:54:PM
Prob true, but last check up I passed with flying colours health wise. How many people do you know that have lived a totally so-called healthy lifestyle yet seem to get every illness out there. I know of more people that have had the dreaded cancer who have never touched a smoke. I firmly believe people are pre-liable  due to genes etc

um you d know cancer is just one of the 100's of diseases that smoking makes you more at risk too


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: crashe on 22 September 2009, 11:02:PM
First off Crashe- you rock! you will be one of our motivational experts coming in to speak with the victims!!

Lets do this thaaang!

We'll start on October the 1st

I'll put up a page on my website so I don't clog up the forums with your "challenging but achievable fitness routine vids and handy exercise pics"

I'll need suitably schmultzy background stories......

Thanks Julez.....

I only measure myself once a month and weigh myself weekly.

Being really short and overweight isn't a good look. So I am aiming to reach my goal within XX amount of months.....

But for me I went into the supermarket and plonked 9 x 1kg blocks of cheese up on the trolley... that is what I have lost to date.

I am not loosing only a few KGs.... but a lot.



Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 22 September 2009, 11:10:PM
Did you then eat the cheese? :)


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Lumiere on 22 September 2009, 11:19:PM
Thanks Julez.....

I only measure myself once a month and weigh myself weekly.

Being really short and overweight isn't a good look. So I am aiming to reach my goal within XX amount of months.....

But for me I went into the supermarket and plonked 9 x 1kg blocks of cheese up on the trolley... that is what I have lost to date.

I am not loosing only a few KGs.... but a lot.



Ah... this concept of blocks of cheese/butter equating to weight; palm = amount of protein, fist for veggies; and a pie containing a golf-ball of fat.  I wonder who it was that first introduced the NZ public to those concepts ;) 


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 22 September 2009, 11:24:PM
Bill Phillips for me. 

Well for everything except for the golf-ball fat thing which I never heard of.  Sounds about right though, not sure how much of that is saturated though?


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: crashe on 22 September 2009, 11:24:PM
Did you then eat the cheese? :)

Hahahahaha Nope... not a cheese eater....as such.......


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: crashe on 22 September 2009, 11:30:PM
Ah... this concept of blocks of cheese/butter equating to weight; palm = amount of protein, fist for veggies; and a pie containing a golf-ball of fat.  I wonder who it was that first introduced the NZ public to those concepts ;) 

Dunno... but seeing it all there together... makes you realise how much you have actually lost..!


But I weighed the food that I brought from the supermarket in the backpack when I got home.. and discovered it was the same amount that I had just lost.... damn it that bag was heavy after lugging it 3kms home...



Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Rhysior on 22 September 2009, 11:28:PM
mmmm, cheese, *homer simpson druol*


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: siegfriedhans on 22 September 2009, 11:59:PM
Prob true, but last check up I passed with flying colours health wise. How many people do you know that have lived a totally so-called healthy lifestyle yet seem to get every illness out there. I know of more people that have had the dreaded cancer who have never touched a smoke. I firmly believe people are pre-liable  due to genes etc

you are so right jordie....
I had a very interesting chat with a HIV specialist once about lifestyle vs life length etc....as they pointed out to me, they have had some macrobiotic eating, gym every day, chemical free patients that go on hiv meds in a relatively short period of time, and other needle using, pie eating, alcohol abusing, dont care patients that go for decades without meds. The advice given to me was that a significant factor was genes, that living a 'healthy' lifestyle helps, but the significant factor was genetic. I particularly asked in relation to smoking, and was told that although giving up would be a desirable thing to do in the medium term, stressing out about smoking was possibly worse. I still havent completely given up....reduced, but not given up. Given up most other stuff.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: nzdar on 23 September 2009, 12:04:AM
did they say the same about unsafe sex, better not to get too stressed about using condoms and fuck away uncovered?

I think that specialist was talking crap. It is universally recommended that people should never smoke, and if they do they should stop now.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 23 September 2009, 12:05:AM
Can u guys do this in another thread please?

Rhysior, so you goin to join in?  What are your goals?


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Lumiere on 23 September 2009, 12:07:AM
Ok - I'll join... but I'm not doing Julz 80's exercise programmes (sorry Julz but I only enjoy the repetiveness of them for the entertainment value of seeing Steve struggle)... and I'm not posting pics :)  9kg and a 32" waist here we come.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 23 September 2009, 12:08:AM
Take a photo. But wait till u have the after as
well :)


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Lumiere on 23 September 2009, 12:13:AM
Take a photo. But wait till u have the after as
well :)

In a word - no!  Others on here will be able to confirm if it's working or not.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Mark Anthony on 23 September 2009, 10:44:AM
By the age of 30 most guys should have a pretty good idea of their body/metabolism etc. (I cannot speak for women as I understand there are different factors). I know for example that my weight fluctuates between 78-81kg and my waistline between 29-31cm.........................as it has been doing that for 20 years.

I go through phases where I feel, or more importantly, I think, I am massively overweight.............I feel bloated and lethargic........it is in the mind of course....however it does lead me to institute a detox diet regime which is a fantastic fix, much more orgasmic than a chocolate bar or fat-soaked vile Muck Burger..........

It is a question of understanding food......and by that I do not mean reading just the bloody labels.........you should be able to eat what you like, and when you like and not have to worry about dieting, unless you have a pre-existing medical condition which restricts certain foods.

No good getting upset about being overweight if you are not prepared to do anything about it except whinge then binge on rubbish....


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: saintjulz on 23 September 2009, 11:42:AM
<umiere- no 80's style, thats spesh for Stevie only! All butch at Camp Bootie camp!!

Am fixing to put it all together on Thurs- so I'll post the links by the end of tomorrow, off now to get some folks to swing around a pole in a pole dancing studio, then make 4-7 year olds jump up and down to music then get older ladies swimming in the pool.... Best make sure I don't mix them up.........


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: phaag on 23 September 2009, 11:56:AM
I think you should make the older ladies do the pole dancing  :)


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: tones on 23 September 2009, 12:22:PM
admittedly i haven't ready any posts from page 2 onwards but i'd be totally keen to kick this thing off on October the 1st with you fullaz!


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: deep388 on 23 September 2009, 04:01:PM
I'm willing to join (just to maintain myself) since spring is here and the festive season is NOT too far away.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: etapeanutbutter on 23 September 2009, 06:06:PM
Damn you Aucklanders and you clique groups.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 23 September 2009, 06:07:PM
You don't have to be an Aucklander to join!  It's not like I am going to the gym with any of them!



Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Mark Anthony on 23 September 2009, 06:11:PM
Damn you Aucklanders and you click groups.

Is there a flamenco group with castanets? Click click?

Clique dear....clique....


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: etapeanutbutter on 23 September 2009, 06:15:PM
Is there a flamenco group with castanets? Click click?

Clique dear....clique....

Thanks Mr. Anthony.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 23 September 2009, 06:13:PM
So, joining in?  Or using your location as an excuse? :P


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Mark Anthony on 23 September 2009, 06:17:PM
So, joining in?  Or using your location as an excuse? :P

If I were on the large size I would....and no, being in Gisborne would not preclude my participation.  Actually I do have to be careful with my diet.....with the medications etc.......


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Mark Anthony on 23 September 2009, 06:17:PM
Thanks Mr. Anthony.


:-*


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 23 September 2009, 06:28:PM
If I were on the large size I would....and no, being in Gisborne would not preclude my participation.  Actually I do have to be careful with my diet.....with the medications etc.......

Sorry Mark, that was to exctrik


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: etapeanutbutter on 23 September 2009, 06:30:PM
So, joining in?  Or using your location as an excuse? :P

Ugh, If I did it - I'd have to go to a gym. *goes looking at prices*


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: crashe on 23 September 2009, 07:01:PM
Ugh, If I did it - I'd have to go to a gym. *goes looking at prices*

Go walking young man.... PN does NOT have any hills whatsoever!!!!


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: tones on 23 September 2009, 07:03:PM
Ugh, If I did it - I'd have to go to a gym. *goes looking at prices*

sex could also get the heart rate up and work muscles ... that's if you can last longer than a few minutes as it is push play for thirty minutes a day

 :)


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: etapeanutbutter on 23 September 2009, 07:02:PM
Go walking young man.... PN does NOT have any hills whatsoever!!!!

There are so hills, Out towards massey there are :D


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: saintjulz on 23 September 2009, 08:22:PM
Damn you Aucklanders and you clique groups.

Hey!! queen exercise bitch is wellington!! Will all be online so you can live anywhere with an internet connection...


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: etapeanutbutter on 23 September 2009, 08:23:PM
Hey!! queen exercise bitch is wellington!! Will all be online so you can live anywhere with an internet connection...

You should move to the Manawatu - Its Dyke Central!


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: saintjulz on 23 September 2009, 08:27:PM
Hey!! queen exercise bitch is wellington!! Will all be online so you can live anywhere with an internet connection...

And hot sex is part of the exercise regime, and i have a spesh workout planned using all your sex toys so you don't even need a gym.



Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 23 September 2009, 09:44:PM
Day 2 - More Betterer

Today was an almost ideal day, jogged part of the way to work again, ate healthy all day, drank two pumps of water, coudln't get to walk at lunch too torrential.  I had to work late again, but as soon as everyone left I took a big gulp of water and cranked the music.  Handful of dried fruit and nuts kept me going and despite having sore eyes, an irritating day at work, and miserable weather, I WENT to the gym and I did an upper body weights workout.  It was late by the time I got home so I had a vegetable and chicken lasagna ready meal thingy and added some peanut butter for extra protein.

Gonna be sore tomorrow, I can feel it.  But yeah I did it!


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: crashe on 23 September 2009, 10:19:PM
There are so hills, Out towards massey there are :D

What a slight gradual hill........!
That will be a good workout for those muscles in your legs....

You work them going up and relax and enjoy coming back down again.... lol

Next excuse!!!!


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Columbine, Comtesse De Vache on 23 September 2009, 11:11:PM
Yeah!


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: saintjulz on 24 September 2009, 09:10:AM
www.julzdarroch.co.nz click on the camp bootie camp at the top of the front page and voila!!

Facebook http://www.facebook.com/pages/SAINTJULZ-patron-saint-of-gay-fitness-emergencies/138239489444?ref=nf

cheers

sj


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: crashe on 24 September 2009, 09:49:AM
[url=http://www.julzdarroch.co.nz]www.julzdarroch.co.nz[/url] click on the camp bootie camp at the top of the front page and voila!!

Facebook [url]http://www.facebook.com/pages/SAINTJULZ-patron-saint-of-gay-fitness-emergencies/138239489444?ref=nf[/url]

cheers

sj


Hehehehehe that should get them all motivated... Camp bootie camp...
Give them all a week to get their music organised...!

I throw on ABBA and other cds.... into my discman...

Right off to walk to my local shops... up hills all the way there... and downhill on the way back..
will take about an hour...
Oh and I am taking me brolly today...



Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 24 September 2009, 11:55:AM
10 pack of vege rice on http://snatchadeal.co.nz/ today for $10!

Bit of Tuna or Chicken and instant easy healthy meal :)


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 24 September 2009, 06:52:PM
Day 3 - pattern begins

A brilliant day, couldn't walk at lunch time, too busy, but still got my jog on, ate well allday, worked late without snacks, had a great cardio workout and salad for dinner.

Just got to keep this up.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: nzdar on 24 September 2009, 07:02:PM
10 pack of vege rice on [url]http://snatchadeal.co.nz/[/url] today for $10!

Bit of Tuna or Chicken and instant easy healthy meal :)


I m not sure it is healthy - what do they add to the rice - how much sodium.

For a balanced meal you need veges / salad to be a main part of the meal.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: crashe on 24 September 2009, 08:17:PM
Day 3 - pattern begins

A brilliant day, couldn't walk at lunch time, too busy, but still got my jog on, ate well allday, worked late without snacks, had a great cardio workout and salad for dinner.

Just got to keep this up.

Snacks like a apple/pear etc with tie you over til the next meal... so then you won't pig out at meal times...



I ended up walking briskly for 50 minutes this morning... was heading home and changed my route to go even further...


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 25 September 2009, 08:24:PM
Day 4 - form is good

I went to the gym on a Friday, oh yeah!  Now that was a supreme effort of will, considering the bitch week at work I have had, just wanted to go home and shoot things, but I ate well all day, went for a walk at lunch, and yes, topped it off with a lower body workout.

Saturdays are going to be my "binge" days for the first month or so, until I stop craving, oh god CRAVING chips, and I am going to be travelling with mates, so it seems a good day for it.

But still, please with how things are going so far.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Lumiere on 25 September 2009, 08:31:PM
I decided on Tuesday to stop drinking during the week and I've dropped 2kg  :o


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 25 September 2009, 08:32:PM
Ah good old instant water weight, the first 2 weeks or so it's OMG! and then nothing, and then giving up...well historically that is what happened with me, so I am not even going to way myself for a month.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: WonderBoy on 25 September 2009, 08:33:PM
I decided on Tuesday to stop drinking during the week and I've dropped 2kg  :o

as Prosp said - keep at it tho sweetheart!

I can take you for walks if you want?

But be warned, its an hour, and no stops. and no piking, and no slowing down. lol :P


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Lumiere on 25 September 2009, 08:36:PM
Do you have any idea how much time I spent at the gym before I fucked my arm up last year you cheeky bitch.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: WonderBoy on 25 September 2009, 08:38:PM
Do you have any idea how much time I spent at the gym before I fucked my arm up last year you cheeky bitch.

No i dont, cos you never told me.  ::)

But dont hate, dont hate.

Im drunk. lol weeeeeeeeee!


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Rhysior on 25 September 2009, 09:00:PM
the doctor said that i'm putting on weight again and got to start bruning it off...
I'm notvery happy about that.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Eromenos on 25 September 2009, 09:01:PM
Put down the chips, get off the couch and do something about it then.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 25 September 2009, 09:07:PM
the doctor said that i'm putting on weight again and got to start bruning it off...
I'm notvery happy about that.

Im 4 days in, join me! :)


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Fradley on 25 September 2009, 09:38:PM
If you want to loose weight.. .  .    .        .

DANCE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB9gMc3yXZM



Had to put it up kuz it was on the news.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Tesla on 25 September 2009, 10:46:PM
the doctor said that i'm putting on weight again and got to start bruning it off...
I'm notvery happy about that.

Keep a food diary for a week.  Count up the calories you have consumed over that week.

Keep an exercise diary for a week.  Count up the calories burned during that week.

If the food calories exceed the calories burned, you need to do two things:

1)  Up the exercise.  Keep it as cardio-based as possible.

2)  Reduce the calories you eat.  Stop worrying too much about "fat this" and "carb that" at this stage - just reduce your calories.  A 15% reduction, sustained over a few weeks will drop a few pounds.

It's really not rocket science.  It works!


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: nzdar on 25 September 2009, 10:51:PM
the doctor said that i'm putting on weight again and got to start bruning it off...
I'm notvery happy about that.

not happy about what ... putting on weight ... or the thought of burning it off?

life is not easy, its about time you took some responsbility



Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: crashe on 26 September 2009, 12:39:AM
the doctor said that i'm putting on weight again and got to start bruning it off...
I'm notvery happy about that.

YOU know what you have to do about it... if you really want to lose the weight....




Ok I walked up to my local supermarket and it took me 30 minutes to walk there... did my shopping and then put it all in a backpack and lugged it home which took me another 30 minutes..

All up 1 hour briskly walking.... and lugging a 8kg weight on my back for those 30 minutes...
Drunk a 650 bottle of water during the walk.
Ate all healthy food today too.



Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: deep388 on 26 September 2009, 12:45:AM
If you want to loose weight.. .  .    .        .

DANCE

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB9gMc3yXZM[/url]



Had to put it up kuz it was on the news.



I agree with dancing, be it in any form. I've recently been going for an indian function with some other friends for almost the past few days which involves dancing around in a large circle and have come out of it with sore feet, and clothes drenched in sweat (and it is funny how dancing around a circular motion doing nothing but the same rhythmic movement with your feet and hands is one of the most greatest aerobic excercises out!) Of course, I'd recommend joining a dance class, perhaps Salsa or something along those lines (they're high in intensity and a very good workout...much more fun if you're not a fan of running or having to workout on treadmills/bikes).

 


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Eromenos on 26 September 2009, 12:54:AM
i walked about for 10 hours today. Just like i did on monday,tuesday,wednesday,thursday and just like im going to do tommorow.



Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: deep388 on 26 September 2009, 01:12:AM
You must be a heck of a lot fit to be doing that many hours of walk in a day! I wander how many steps that would be?


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Eromenos on 26 September 2009, 03:11:AM
I balance it out with a healthy fill of Smoking, drinking and fast food.


And yes i still lose weight.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: urfacemofo on 26 September 2009, 03:09:AM
never really understood how people get really fat. My family naturally is overweight mostly fat dudes in our tree. But tall fat dudes haha, so if I in theory sat on my ass and watched tv all day and ate shit food then I would be fat.

Ive played sport since I was about 5. I go to the gym bt 5+ days a week, run loads, walk up stairs instead of taking an elevator. I love running, I love doing weights, I love eating well. One of my fav things in life is working out till im wet and dripping in sweat then having a shower after, I love it.

Good on you Prospero, I know this will 100% change your life. Be proud you are doing this.



Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: siegfriedhans on 26 September 2009, 03:13:AM
I balance it out with a healthy fill of Smoking, drinking and fast food.


And yes i still lose weight.

Aah yes but young man....just wait untill 30/35 ish maybe 40. It all changes.....:)


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: urfacemofo on 26 September 2009, 03:17:AM
ten hours? you a mailman or something>?


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Eromenos on 26 September 2009, 03:17:AM
I dont think that far ahead.

Well im actually thinner then my bone structure, though i do have the trademark family neck (thick neck).

If i was to put on weight to my frame, id be a bit buff (like my brother) though personally i couldnt think of anything worse. Well wait yes i can. I could be a fatass.

I was a porky baby though


*for urface*

'marketing'


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: urfacemofo on 26 September 2009, 03:24:AM
you know what I get sick of?

" oh your lucky your in such good shape "

its like FK OFF, I work my ass off to maintain it. Tard fucks. This shit didnt come free.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 28 September 2009, 09:22:PM
Day 5

Binged

Day 6

Whoops, binged a little bit more, I was away from home a lot longer than I expected and got carried away.  Its my first bad weekend, took it too far, feedl bad about it, but not going to let it stop me doing better...hence

Day 7

Back to form!  Phew, hit the gym, ate the good food, avoided any bad food.  Too wet to jog or walk in the morning or lunch, but excellent cardio

Oh and Spaceman by The Killers - fantastic way to end your cardio, really pushes yourself.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: tones on 28 September 2009, 09:29:PM
which is worse for me:
2 beers
or
2 glasses on pinot gris?


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 28 September 2009, 10:08:PM
Beers I imagine?


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Jenny on 28 September 2009, 11:31:PM
Yeah beer worse than dry wine but no alcohol drink is good when you're trying to lose weight.  Alcohol gives no nutrition, extra calories and persuades us to eat more.  

See http://www.thinkingnutrition.co.nz/Nutrition+Blog/2009/May/Weight+Loss+-+Liquid+Calories+Weigh+Us+Down.html (http://www.thinkingnutrition.co.nz/Nutrition+Blog/2009/May/Weight+Loss+-+Liquid+Calories+Weigh+Us+Down.html)


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Rhysior on 28 September 2009, 11:35:PM
I was watching something the other day and they said that wine in moderation is suppost to be good for you


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 28 September 2009, 11:38:PM
which is about one glass of red a day, and yeah but not if you are trying to lose weight, as the benefits from it don't outweigh the kilojoules


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: clasp on 29 September 2009, 04:26:AM
also alcohol slows fat metabolising.  There are antioxidants in wine, but i have read a in number of places recently that the health problems of drinking alcohol outweigh the health bonuses of the rest of the stuff.  So drink, by all means, but don't think you're doing yourself any favours.  Apart from having a nice glass of wine. 


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 29 September 2009, 08:28:PM
Day 8

Who ever invented the farmboy black t-shirt look...is a genius.  Great day today, jogged a little further to work, just one lamp post worth, but better than nothing, ate well all day, chicken and rice, protein shakes, pita etc.  Had a great upper body workout and now starting to record my weights so I know how much to push myself next time


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 30 September 2009, 09:16:PM
Day 9

Still good, but need more work.  I jogged to work again, but i have been relying a bit too much on deli sandwiches and wraps which are lager portions than necessary and have a lot of extra ingredients I don't really need.  Plan on stocking up tomorrow on good food to help boost things along.  Great cardio workout though, bike instead of cross trainer, sweat soaked my headphones.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: tones on 30 September 2009, 09:35:PM
Great work Prospero, sounds like you're really getting into a routine.
Have you tried 'menu planning' for a week ahead? This will help inform your shopping list for the supermarket, reducing the *thinking* factor when cooking and can save you money too!


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 30 September 2009, 10:26:PM
Yeah going to do that this sunday, try out a weekly menu, do shopping and prepare sunday afternoon, see how that goes.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: tones on 01 October 2009, 10:25:AM
Ive found that it's a really useful way to curb those afterwork snacks and OMG what to have for dinner (cos it's already planned) :)
Save some pinga's too which helps :)

Good on ya, keep it up!


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 01 October 2009, 09:38:PM
Day 10

Not eating is a bitch.  Everytime I tried to have breakfast at work something happened, a pleasant drama every 20 minutes it seemed.  It was 11:30 before I finally had a wrap to eat.  Rest of the afternoon went well protein shakes, chicken and what not but after my rather excellent lower body work out, and chicken sammich, I am still hungry as buggery, must resist the urge to peck!


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: question_chick on 02 October 2009, 08:08:AM
Sounds like you are doing well Prosp, keep it up.



Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 02 October 2009, 09:23:PM
Day 11

An open letter to hot guys at the gym who lift up the bottom of their shirt to wipe their seaty brow, revealing their flat stomach, apollo's girdle and light downy hair: Please don't, it is distracting and I nearly fell off my cross trainer.

Busy ass morning again, but managed to grab a protein shake for breakfast, and it really makes all the difference, no where near as hungry the rest of the day.  Couple of wraps, lots of water, bit too much CZ, but made it to the gym on a friday, oh yeah, that's commitment.  Its always slightly emptier on a friday, what with people going to after work drinks and having those social lives I hear so much about (they sound a bit unhygenic if you ask me *sniff*) but had a good cardio blast.

But thats 5 solid days of gym, and got in some light morning jogs as well.  I was not as knackered as I should have been after my workout, so will be increase the intesity next week, as well as going an extra lampost further in joggingness.

Tomorrow is binge day, I am going all out, panini stylez, cos that is how I roll

Thanks QC :)


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 05 October 2009, 09:39:PM
Day 12

Binged

Day 13

Binged less...good for me

Dary 14

No binging, back on the wagon.  Jogged an extra lampost further, foolishly left all my food at home so still had to have cafeness, but will be sorted for tomorrow, excellent cardio workoug rampd up the level and was pooped at the end of it.

Im still peckish after my salad, I need to drink more water at home, but on the other hand I didn't eat a bastard load of chips from the snack box and slouched my way to Burger King

I need to up my game a bit, nutrition is so vital I can't just say "i'm exercising" and be happy with that, I need to eat better.  Must..be...good...must have insanley flat stomach at new years party so people can go "oooh"


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: tones on 05 October 2009, 09:56:PM
so you're doing it so people will lust after you?

who said you boys are shallow?? LOL


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: etapeanutbutter on 05 October 2009, 09:54:PM
If the lesbians aren't, who else is there? :-P


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Fradley on 05 October 2009, 10:09:PM
The kiddie pool?


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 05 October 2009, 10:16:PM
so you're doing it so people will lust after you?

who said you boys are shallow?? LOL

There are so many reasons, that is one of them, and spite, theres some people who I want to want to have sex with me just so I can tell them to fuck off cast they are horrible people.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 06 October 2009, 09:22:PM
Day 15

Mixed back, I again rushed out the door without my food!  ARGH.  This is my big failing point, nutrition.  However I have pre stuffed my bag so I can be ready tomorrow.  So I was not off to a good start, though still jogged, still ate faily well though sigh, working late and succumbed to chips, damn you chips.  BUT  normally, when I have an average day I say "fuckit" and give up.  But I still went to the gym (average workout, not enough protein, but still lifted heavier weights than last week) and plan on doing better tomorrow.

Though looking at the people at the gym, I think I am nearing the age when I have to tuck my t-shirt into my pants :(


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: WonderBoy on 07 October 2009, 04:33:PM
lolz.

Tshirt tucked into pants would make me laugh my ass off.

do it. :P


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 07 October 2009, 10:17:PM
Day 16

Almost perfect, I have work down pat, jog a bit there, eat well, drink water, go to gym...sorted.  Now I have to get home done, I am still relying on deli'ness and prepackaged meals and a late night carbey snack.  Once I get that sorted I will be ok.  At the moment I feel like I am just stopping myself from getting fatter rather than actually losing weight.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: nzdar on 07 October 2009, 10:24:PM
Ok, I've been doing this on the sly. I have lost 5kgs in 2 weeks - all by eating well, no exercise.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 07 October 2009, 10:26:PM
While one half of me is all "you bitch" the other half is Wooo well done!



Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: nzdar on 07 October 2009, 10:32:PM
I suspect that was the easy lose, the next 5 might be more tricky


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: question_chick on 08 October 2009, 08:55:PM
1 kg lost this week with no extra excercise. Next week I start at the gym again.


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 08 October 2009, 10:57:PM
Day 17

Pretty good, nothing specatcular.  Usual jogging, eating well at work, no bad snacks.  My lower body workout could have been better, I did lift heavier weights, but wasn't really pushing myself, I think I will jig it around for next week, shake it up a bit.  Had 6" subway for dinner, so pretty pleased there, still carbey sammich for snack.  Gah.  I need to clean out my pantry on Sunday.  Really want to kick it into gear next week.

Still, better than BK for dinner and not exercise at all!


Title: Re: Sick of Being Tubby
Post by: Prospero on 09 October 2009, 10:28:PM
Day 18

Gym on a friday, booyah!  And biked so hard I thought I was going to hurl at the end of it.  Ate, finished off the carby late night snacks...I don't feel I  have made a huge amount of progress physically, but mentally hell yes.

Friend is having a birthday party at my place tomorrow, so already stocked up on essentials (2kg of candy) and although I willl eat it with gusto, cos damn I loves me some fizzy lollies, I am quite looking forward to next weekend when I can just be normal and healthy.