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« Reply #60 on: Yesterday at 02:45 PM »

Is it important for people to recognise that you are transgendered and have thus been through this rite of passage? This seems to be the opposite of what a "woodworked" transgendered person is looking for.

I prefer not to be recognised as trans, I personally don't perceive being transgender as a positive thing.
If I could take a pill that would make me a happy cisgender person, I would.
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« Reply #61 on: Yesterday at 02:48 PM »

Maybe the younger transgendered people just want to pass and get on with their lives and don't even want the TG part to be acknowledged, whereas previous generations have had to fight so long and hard, they need this fight to be acknowledged?

I would suggest the age is not a factor in this Swit; its more of a personal choice.  For many simply being accepted and the ability to pass in their gender is the goal, for others they are happy to sit somewhere in the spectrum of gender.  
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« Reply #62 on: Yesterday at 02:48 PM »

I prefer not to be recognised as trans, I personally don't perceive being transgender as a positive thing.

I agree about the trans statement; i certainly don't wear the "Trans" label, I relate to being a woman and that is how I live my life.  Though i'm not ashamed of my past or concerned to bring this up in the right circumstances. 
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« Reply #63 on: Yesterday at 02:55 PM »

I would suggest the age is not a factor in this Swit; its more of a personal choice.  For many simply being accepted and the ability to pass in their gender is the goal, for others they are happy to sit somewhere in the spectrum of gender.  

I think it may be a age thing to an extent but for some of us who are out either by choice or through external circumstances it is a great defense mechanism I have always found that i can use it to stop speculation and gossip in it's tracks.

I think being TS (I do not consider myself TG) is a large part of what makes me tick and i am very comfortable in my skin I am not ashamed of my status it is me .
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« Reply #64 on: Yesterday at 02:58 PM »

Do transgendered people want to be recognised as transgendered?

I consider myself to be a member of the Transgender community but I am not transgendered?
Im a female or sex change.
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« Reply #65 on: Yesterday at 03:02 PM »

....that good quality counselling is an important part of the process.
 

Are there any counsellors etc in NZ who actually are Transsexuals?

They are the only ones who will have actual experience.
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« Reply #66 on: Yesterday at 03:04 PM »

Are there any counsellors etc in NZ who actually are Transsexuals?

They are the only ones who will have actual experience.

Mani Mitchell is a counselor who specialises in trans issues.
She is not transgender however, she is intersex.
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« Reply #67 on: Yesterday at 03:08 PM »

I dont like to throw cheap shots like you seem to delight in rqather i am happier getting to the real issues in posts.
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« Reply #68 on: Yesterday at 03:13 PM »

I think it may be a age thing to an extent but for some of us who are out either by choice or through external circumstances it is a great defense mechanism I have always found that i can use it to stop speculation and gossip in it's tracks.

I think being TS (I do not consider myself TG) is a large part of what makes me tick and i am very comfortable in my skin I am not ashamed of my status it is me .
RT

I find I am largely accepted well but am sprung at times - so what, Im happy.
Im open and honest about who and what I am simply because I dont lie (I lied as I have told the odd few in years gone by) But I dont lie about being trans or once have been deemed to have been a male. I am as proud of Andrew as I am of Storm.
If people have a problem with me and my being TS, its thier problem not mine. Like RT, Im not TG and have more problem with some one calling me TG that calling me a trans or Tranny
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« Reply #69 on: Yesterday at 03:33 PM »

The only thing I wanted to draw out of that article was the fact that some gender reassignment surgery ended in disappointment for some people.

We dont disagree but to me, why bring it out? Why not bring out the positives like the successes I posted.
What you bought up was a story in the UK where I believe only 3 bad results were talked about.
Ine the same story is the below.............

"She is one of a small number of trans people who have publicly expressed their regrets about having had sex change surgery."

"Against these stories of disappointment and regret, there are many more people who will testify publicly to their overwhelming satisfaction with sex change surgery."

There are the odd bad case for sure but why publicise these but not the many successes.
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« Reply #70 on: Yesterday at 03:42 PM »

There are the odd bad case for sure but why publicise these but not the many successes.

Human nature. The general public doesn't care about the success stories, they want to hear about the tragedies.
In my opinion, it's good to talk about the cases where surgery was not positive. Those stories serve as a warning for those who are not ready.
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« Reply #71 on: Yesterday at 03:42 PM »

In my opinion, it's good to talk about the cases where surgery was not positive.

Dont disagree with you. They need to be balanced with the far more numbers of successes tho, so they dont scare people.
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« Reply #72 on: Yesterday at 04:10 PM »

Human nature. The general public doesn't care about the success stories, they want to hear about the tragedies.
In my opinion, it's good to talk about the cases where surgery was not positive. Those stories serve as a warning for those who are not ready.

Agree human nature likes to see distress; just watch the 6pm news each night

Dont disagree with you. They need to be balanced with the far more numbers of successes tho, so they dont scare people.

It would be great to see more success stories broadcast; I remeber when I was a young teenager I hung on every "rare" story i heard through the magazines.  The real benefit (my opinion) of the success stories is not so much for the general public; its for the ones struggling with the inner turmoil to transisition, and the family and friends trying to deal with a loved ones revelation to transistion.

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« Reply #73 on: Yesterday at 04:19 PM »

Agree human nature likes to see distress; just watch the 6pm news each night

It would be great to see more success stories broadcast; I remeber when I was a young teenager I hung on every "rare" story i heard through the magazines.  The real benefit (my opinion) of the success stories is not so much for the general public; its for the ones struggling with the inner turmoil to transisition, and the family and friends trying to deal with a loved ones revelation to transistion.


Yes I do agree. The real benefit of telling of the successes is as you say. However you are talking about a VERY limited audience there and will never sell it to anyone who can help publisize it with that. There are benefits also to the general public and to helping people understand and so that is where the focus needs to be to be able to sell it. Bigger audience potential.
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