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« on: 09 October 2009, 04:56:PM »

Bad Gay movies 1

The other night I had the chance to finally see a film that I had wanted to see for years...
Yes I believe I was sneaky and possibly could have ... um... got it by doing you know what
... but this film was never going to get a release in New Zealand. I don't even think Outtakes would have screened it or perhaps even known about it.

I was disappointed ... more than disappointed I was pissed at how badly parts of this movie were executed... mainly the piss poor acting of several of the cast members. Tori Spelling was however wonderfully hammy as per usual.

This experience made me want to start posting intermitted about GLBT I think are bad...
First of all I think I should define badly
There are three types of bad
Bad as in terrible
Bad as in good
... and the little mentioned but occasional Bad as in Mad Sad Bad and Glad...
One of my acting tutors said there were 4 emotions
Bad in this context means angry, aggressive, and naughty ... you name it, it means it

so with those definitions in mind I will occasionally list bad movies that may or may not interest you.
Sometimes I will review the film and other times I will give you some information and let you form your own opinion. That is if you choose to seek out the movie and maybe the occasional television programme.

The movie that prompted all this is called Cthulhu

I was drawn to this film because it was apparently based on the H.P. Lovecraft story "The Shadow Over Innsmouth"
I really wanted to see some of Lovecraft's monsters on film.... shame really

I actually like the way it looked.
... some of the first lines of the film
"My mother died."
"Oh that's a shame. Hey can I get 20 bucks."

Hmmm not so sure about that....
The dialogue was delivered at a rather stilted pace at times... The father of the lead character was so incompetently portrayed I had to laugh every time he appeared on the screen. There was no sense of menace ... there was a lot of confusion due to the lazy plotting and perhaps the assumption that people know the Lovecraft mythos.

Why is this film gay you ask? The main protagonist is estranged from his family because of his sexuality; part of the film examines the love affair he has with an old friend when he returns to his hometown for his mother’s funeral.
The main protagonist became incredibly annoying and uses the word fuck rather a lot... not that this is a bad thing ... but he is the head of a University's History department and you'd expect his vocabulary to extend past ... "You fucken, fuck, fuck, fuckity fuck"
The actor didn't vary his performance a lot; he got to screaming pitch towards the middle and stayed there for most of the rest of the film.
The best thing about the film was its cinematography and of course Tori Spelling.

Here is some info from the films wiki page

Cthulhu is a 2007 American horror movie, directed by Dan Gildark and co-written by Grant Cogswell and Daniel Gildark. The film is loosely based on the short story "The Shadow Over Innsmouth" (1936) by H. P. Lovecraft.

The film moves the story from New England to the Pacific Northwest. The film is notable for having a gay protagonist. Screenwriter Grant Cogswell explained that he and Gildark chose to exploit the metaphor for the horror faced by a gay person returning for a relative's funeral and having to face the horrors of small-town life.[1]

The film premiered June 14, 2007 at the Seattle International Film Festival and officially opened in select theatrical venues August 22, 2008.

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« Reply #1 on: 09 October 2009, 04:57:PM »

Bad Gay movies 2

Right for my second enstalment I'm going to look at a film where several of those meanings of Bad come into play...
Bad meaning terrible
Bad meaning good
... and Bad meaning naughty

Pink Narcissus

Okay so basically i love the way this film looks... I love how beautifully campy/ kitch it is
... but damn is it a little boring
It's a masturbatory fantasy with no real "climax"

here is the wiki page

Pink Narcissus is a 1971 drama film by James Bidgood visualizing the erotic fantasies of a gay man.

Between visits from his keeper, or john, a handsome male prostitute (Bobby Kendall), alone in his apartment, lounges, fantasizing about worlds where he is the central character. For example, he pictures himself as a matador, a Roman slave boy and the emperor who condemns him, and the keeper of a male harem for whom another male performs a belly dance.

The movie is mostly shot on 8 mm film with bright, otherworldly lighting. Aside from its last, climactic scene, which was shot in a downtown Manhattan loft, it was produced in its entirety (including outdoor scenes) in Bidgood's small New York apartment over a seven year (from 1963 to 1970) period and ultimately released without the director's consent who therefore had himself credited as Anonymous.

It was not widely known who had created the movie, and there were rumors that Andy Warhol was behind it. In the mid-1990s, writer Bruce Benderson, who was obsessed with the film, began a search for its maker based on several leads and finally verified that it was James Bidgood, who was still living in Manhattan and was working on a film script. In 1999, a book researched and written by Benderson was published by Taschen about Bidgood's body of photographic and filmic work.

Bidgood's unmistakable kitschy style has later been imitated and refined by artists such as Pierre et Gilles.

Bidgood made a lot of this film in his appartment in New York. He eventually had enough money to finish working on it in a warehouse.
Bidgood for some reason removed his namefrom the directing credit of the film... I think it had something to do with the final edit of the film. he was never able to realise his full vision. The taschen book James Bidgood documents this process well

It's a great book. I have a copy. Full of beautiful images.

It has a large section of images from the movie.
Alot of the images in the book were shot in Bidgoods' kitchen.

Here is part of the wiki page on Bidgood

James Bidgood (born March 28, 1933 in Madison, Wisconsin) is an American contemporary artist living and working in New York City. His artistic output has embraced a number of media and disciplines, including music, set and window design, and drag performance. In time his interests led him to photography and film and it is for this work that he is most widely known. Highly recognizable, his photographs are distinguished by an aesthetic of high fantasy and camp. His work which was inspired by an early interest in Florenz Ziegfeld, Folies Bergère, and George Quaintance has, in turn, served as important inspiration for a slew of artists including Pierre et Gilles and David LaChapelle. In the late 1950s Bidgood attended Parsons The New School for Design. Bidgood directed the 1971 film Pink Narcissus, a dialogue-free fantasy centered around a young and often naked man. The film took seven years to make, and Bidgood built all the sets and filmed the entire piece in his tiny apartment. He later removed his name from the film because he felt editors had changed his original vision. Consequently, the film bore the word "Anonymous" for the director's credit, and it was misattributed to other directors such as Andy Warhol for many years. Pink Narcissus was re-released in 2003 by Strand Releasing.

Bigood's oeuvre is characterized by a heavy reliance on invention. His photographs feature elaborate sets built ground up from the materials of the theatre, fashion, design, and fine art. In a profile of the artist published in Aperture, Philip Gefter writes,

“ Necessity was the mother of invention for Bidgood, who created elaborate photographic tableaux in his small midtown Manhattan studio apartment. His first erotic series was an underwater epic called Water Colors, made in the early 1960s, in which he used a dancer from Club 82 named Jay Garvin as his subject. The underwater atmosphere is completely fabricated; the bottom of the ocean was created with silver lame spread across the floor of Bidgood's apartment; he made the arch of a cave out of waxed paper, and fashioned red lame into the shape of lobster. He coated Garvin with mineral oil and pasted glitter and sequins to his skin so the silver fabric under photographic lights would reflect on his body like water. For weeks at a time, Bigood would eat and sleep within the sets he constructed in his apartment.[1] ”

Many contemporary themes are found even in the earliest of Bidgood's work. Camp, identity, erotics and desire, marginality, and performance all figure heavily in his portraits of nude men. Bidgood's complex references to the theatre and performance seem to presage Queer articulations of Performance. His techniques, working processes, and masterful use of illusionistic color indicate both a mature understanding of his influences and goals and an important contrast to the art movements of the time the work was first created.

In 2005, James Bidgood was honored with a Creative Capital grant which facilitated a return to art photography after a hiatus of nearly forty years. His current projects include work for Christian Louboutin and Out magazine. In 1999 Taschen published a monograph of his work including biographical images and stills from his film. The art book publisher Taschen included an interview with Bidgood in its 2008 publication The Big Penis Book, and will re-publish his monograph in 2009. His most recent work was featured in Out in February 2009.

Bidgood is represented by ClampArt in New York City as well as Larry Collins Fine Art in Provincetown, Massachusetts.

The film is available through Strand releasing{6C55ACB3-619F-4D53-8D8C-BAC96AE0FB16}&ProjectID={723A131B-CB21-4FA2-BD43-E89B1062CD1F}

It is beautiful... and a gay cinema classic... but it drags a bit Sad
If you have access to a projector watch it nice and big... but put on your favourite music because it is silent.


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« Reply #2 on: 09 October 2009, 05:05:PM »

I am *SO* getting these.

i love gay movies, who cares if they are bad.

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« Reply #3 on: 09 October 2009, 05:06:PM »

Cthulhu is worth it for Tori alone... and the silly ending.
I have both of them if you want to borrow.

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« Reply #4 on: 09 October 2009, 07:39:PM »

Anything by Ed Wood, whatsoever...
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« Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 02:28 PM »

Bad Gay/ Lesbian movies 3

I thought I'd ad the lesbian in this time because this film had a little lesboeroticism in it...
What is it you ask?
Well (pause for effect) it’s the wonderful Barbarella

Damn I love this film ... but there is no denying it's bad.
Bad in many ways... bad good... bad, bad... bad naughty... just downright high-la-ri-ous... and with a large smattering of misogyny to boot.

The  objectification of women starts with the wonderful opening sequence and dosen't let up

The swinging sixties never looked better... the free love feel of the film shows up in the many sexual trysts Barbarella ends up in... hmm  the hairy man

and oh golly Pygar

She's even tortured using pleasure

Why is it lesboerotic you ask...  My pretty, pretty...
The Great Tyrant has a thing for Barbarellla... and I'm sure it could be argued that this really is only for the straight boys to say "Corrrrrr look at the chicks getting it on."

Here's a bit of the wiki page on it

Barbarella is a 1968 erotic science fiction film directed by Roger Vadim and based on the French Barbarella comics from Jean-Claude Forest.

Set in the 40th century, Barbarella follows the adventures of its title character played by Jane Fonda. In the film, Barbarella is assigned by the President of Earth to retrieve Doctor Durand Durand from the planet SoGo in order to save the earth. Beyond this premise, the plot is very loose, serving mostly as an excuse for Barbarella to end up in erotic situations. On her quest to find Durand Durand, Barbarella is seduced by a human resident of SoGo, who introduces her to penetrative intercourse (civilized people of Barbarella's society find sexual release through pharmaceuticals), seduces an angel named Pygar, and overloads a torture device (called the Excessive Machine) which kills through sexual pleasure.

Fonda as Barbarella in the "Ex-sex-sive Machine"Barbarella is famous for a sequence in which the title character, played by Jane Fonda, undresses in zero gravity during the opening credits.

The whole film is played in a tongue-in-cheek manner; especially when it comes to the frequent (but not explicit) sex scenes. The most controversial of those scenes involves Barbarella being tortured by the use of an organ-like instrument that delivers sexual pleasure in doses that can be lethal, although Barbarella survives the ordeal and is visibly disappointed when it is discovered she has overloaded the machine.

The film was simultaneously shot in French and English. Some characters' lines were performed by the same actors in both languages; others were not:

In the French version, Fonda performs her own lines in French.
Marcel Marceau's lines are dubbed into English.
De Laurentiis returned to camp science fiction (but with far less erotica) with 1980s Flash Gordon.

Jane Fonda as Barbarella
John Phillip Law as Pygar, the angel
Anita Pallenberg as The Great Tyrant, Black Queen of Sogo (voiced dubbed by Joan Greenwood)
Milo O'Shea as Durand-Durand
Marcel Marceau as Professor Ping
David Hemmings as Dildano
Claude Dauphin as President Dianthus of Earth
Ugo Tognazzi as Mark Hand

Reception and influence
The film was both a box office and critical failure on its release. Variety's review stated that "Despite a certain amount of production dash and polish and a few silly-funny lines of dialogue, Barbarella isn't very much of a film. Based on what has been called an adult comic strip, the Dino De Laurentiis production is flawed with a cast that is not particularly adept at comedy, a flat script, and direction which can't get this beached whale afloat."[1] Another major critic[who?] at the time claimed the film was a "mix of poor special effects and the Marquis de Sade."[citation needed]However, it has gained a cult following since its re-release in 1977 on home video, and has had considerable influence on pop and film culture in the decades following its original release.[citation needed] Jane Fonda has subsequently lamented the fact that she turned down starring roles in two major hit films, Bonnie and Clyde and Rosemary's Baby to stay in France and star in Barbarella, which was being directed by her then husband Roger Vadim.

The imdb page has a wonderful picture gallery

The film does leave a bitter taste in the mouth of any confirmed feminist... Jane Fonda eventually disowned it and tried to have prints of it destroyed.
Some of the psychedelic elements and special effects are a bit silly by today’s standards (but that's just what makes it so wonderful). The plot drags towards the end.

I love Jane Fonda’s  almost permanent startled look throughout the film.

Barbarella just looks beautiful.

Roman Coppola (Francis' son and Sophia's brother) attempted to make a film with elements in the style of these early Dino De Laurentus films the result CQ was okay

If you haven't Barbarella please do... if you can't find it and want to see it there JB Hifi had it for sale recently...
If you live in Auckland and know me ... perhaps I can arrange a screening Smile


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« Reply #6 on: Yesterday at 02:27 PM »

I forgot one of my favourite scenes from Barbarella

Essence of Man

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« Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 03:50 PM »

Bad Gay movies 4

Two posts in one day.... well it will be a record.
I'm still not sure if anyone is reading this but who cares.
At least It gets me writing and researching stuff I like.
I am now going to delve into an area that will titillate and in some case repulse people
or maybe arty Porn ...
but it's still porn
I love the movies made by Director Bruce LaBruce... don't get me started on the wound fucking scene in Otto, Or Up with Dead People.
His punky archaistic aesthetic completely appeals to me.
Today I will present to you what he calls his only pornographic film (though all his films have pornographic elements in them)
Skin Flick or Skin Gang

This film ain't no walk in the park.
It contains some truly vile monologues given by a gang of Nazi Skin Heads.

It's racist, homophobic, antiemetic and many things in-between.

The first time I saw it was out at Outakes... I loved it. Though I sure some of the audience were truly repulsed with themselves for finding the film erotic... siding with some truly awful but hate to say it beautiful looking men.
If you found the film erotic and titillating you sided with a bunch of truly hateful people.
There is a couple in the film they are oxymorons ... they are Jewish Homosexual Skin heads... but they hate Jews, are homophobic and white supremicists... go figure.

The "normal" mixed ethnicity couple in the film don't fare to well either. They both are having sex outside the relationship and neither is being honest to their partner.
In fact one of them has sex with the leader of the gang (pictured on the park bench above) and he follows him home. This leads to the home invasion latter and then rape and death of one of the not homosexual couple.

Here is another scene from the film

Lovely some sexism thrown into the mix too...

Here is the wiki page

Skin Gang, directed by Canadian filmmaker Bruce LaBruce, follows the various sexual and violent escapades of several skinheads. The film raised a great amount of controversy when it premiered in 1999, as many viewers were disturbed by its violent and sexual content, and many critics within the gay community criticized it for perpetuating negative stereotypes about homosexuals and for glorifying violence.

As is typical of films directed by LaBruce, Skin Gang contains a great deal of sexually explicit content, which generally causes it to be categorized as adult or pornographic material. A strong theme in the film is sado-masochism. One infamous scene involves a character masturbating and ejaculating onto a copy of Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler. Another scene, in which a gang of skin heads break into the apartment of an interracial couple and rape and torture them, caused walk-outs at film festivals.[1]

The film was produced and shot in the U.S., England and Germany. It was co-produced with Cazzo Film, a German gay porn company that produced a similar video, Sex Skins, in 2000. Skin Gang is available in a softcore re-edited version entitled Skin Flick.[2]

This film will push your buttons... in different ways.
Here is a rather apat synopsis

Directed by Bruce La Bruce, 1999, 70 minutes.

with: Jens Hammer, Tim Vinzent, Steve Masters, Tom International, Nikki Richardson a.o.
The gang of skinheads isn´t gay, but that doesn´t stop them from fucking each other. Reinold kicks his girlfriend out out of the hoese and much to the amusement of his buddies opens his gates wide! To raise the stakes they crash in on a fashionable gay couple. But the tables get turned and the leader of the pack is forced to submit! 

Vist Bruce LaBruce's website

This one I don't own... but I wish I did...
It truly is Naughty and subversive

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